A week in Berlin (Germany). 

In one of the rare new podcast episodes Debbie Millman talks with Alan Dye, the Vice-President of Human Interface Design at Apple. This is also are rare interview with Alan. I love Apple, this is no secret. And I also love to discover how the processes are and how they are used to create their products. In this talk I sadly didn't get any new insights, Apple employees stay very secretive, but it was a pleasure to listen to this both design masters. I liked it. 

📺 Listen to it on the Website